New changes to Latter-day Saint civil marriages - The Salt Lake Tribune Because they were initially instructed by the adversary to wear the apronthat shouldnt be taken to mean that its forever wrong to wear it. Elisa, Women managed all the fast offerings and caring for the poor themselves without male supervision, as Joseph Smith promised in the first RS meeting. The evening before we went out together to watch a movie Murder By Decree. Eve, for example, has a new line in which she talks about the blessings Latter-day Saints will receive if they are obedient. President Nelson Announces New Church Symbol during April General A TV was added in my temple so they could show the handshake at the appropriate time. A shorter endowment ceremony would also make it possible to spend some time in the celestial room engaged in prayer, mediation or other spiritual practices for those who need it. Mom. That is a tragedy and frankly a cultural problem. The temple ceremony changed in 1990 to remove the promise that women were to obey their husbands, and again in early 2019 to jettison the language that they were to hearken to their husbands while their husbands hearkened to God. The first time I went to the temple was in the 70s. In total, the Church has 45 stores throughout Utah, Idaho, Arizona, Nevada, California, Washington, Oregon, and Texas. Flimsy little slippers? It represents the potential to bring forth lifeeven eternal lives, if you will. Cain sought to skip the order and go right to the veil (an echo of Lucifers rebellion). Those missionaries who choose not to receive the required immunizations, which will now include the COVID-19 vaccination, will be assigned to a mission in their home country in accordance with existing Church policies.. This is their choice. Think thats where I am now. @Travis Im surprised that you dont see any connection to Masonry and the Temple endowment. This podcast series has a ton of information about women who lived, and suffered, under polygamy: https://www.yearofpolygamy.com/author/lindsay/. All of the sexist, polygamist, coercive elements are fundamentally disturbing to me. My interviewees said that despite some time-consuming elements being cut, such as the passing of tokens by hand to everyone in the room, the additions mean the endowment is running about the same length it was shortened to in 2019, roughly 90 to 105 minutes. You also encourage me to [r]ead the accounts of early saints [that] really believed polygamy was a necessary part of salvation. Ive read their accounts many times, and I absolutely agree with them! I dont need someone in authority to tell me what to think. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints instituted a number of revisions last week to the temple endowment ceremony. There were a couple of small changes from the 70s-90s that I wondered about if God was The same yesterday, today, and forever but with the changes that have happened since then that Ive read about it just seems to be to be a slower adaption to the world than the church makes in its more open statements to the public. LDS Church changes policy about civil ceremonies and temple sealings, making way for more family members to be part of weddings . Our lives and our family have been irrevocably changed due to his misuse of Priesthood authority, and I fully recognize that. Allow yourself to see. 7) Who cares? But there. No more waiting. As a wife and a mother of 5 sons I find your comments about men to be denigrating to both men and women. The Church President, of course, has repeatedly spoken of the vital importance of using the correct name of the Church. Color me not impressed. So theres that. We will leave those murals where they are located nowinside the Manti Utah Temple., The prophet continued by saying that the renovations and a temple in Ephraim will expand future opportunities for members in this temple district to participate in sacred temple ordinances and, at the same time, allow us to preserve the unique classical character and useful life of the historic Manti Utah Temple.. If preferred, members may still continue to use their current ceremonial clothing. @Travis, Im not really on the same page with you about a lot of the temple stuff, but I do love the way you frame covenant. 2021, 1:00 p.m. | Updated: April 19, 2022, 2:03 p.m. . 5 intriguing changes to early Church handbooks. Like just last year I somehow discovered the signs were the first half of the penalties which hadnt been completely removed. Why not work to build something, anything, up, as opposed to dismantling what was not fulfilling for you? I shared in a prior post how I was rushed into the temple by a bullying bishop and an anxious mom. And on top of that were not really obeying obedience per se. Ill never not think of that now. Eliza If women are so amazing, I recommend we just let them decide how they want to be treated instead of men telling them how they should want to be treated.. Therein, Mormons are instructed that the knowledge, tokens, and signs obtained within the temple will provide passage through the veil into . Jana Riess. I never saw them at church again. Congregations in the US and Canada will be able to participate every other year. I do think the General Authorities tended to be misandrist for a long time, but perhaps the men of the Church really were, by and large, that bad. Baptism for the Dead, gender equity, patriarchy, Temple. I first went through an endowment session in Dec of 1993. As a woman,I need your respect, not your flattery. The last few years of changes have not moved the needle at all for me because of the polygamous (and therefore sexist) undertones throughout the entire thing that make it rotten to the core for me. In my first interview, a woman told me how excited she was to see two women demonstrating on screen how to go through the veil and that the ordinance worker being depicted was a Black woman with gorgeous, long braids. The very next interview was with a woman who told me how excited she was that of the two men shown demonstrating how to go through the veil, one appeared to be Asian. Im fine with folk believing whatever they want to believe but Im not convinced myself at this time. Elder Gerrit W. Gong presided at the dedicatory sessions. There is no way to get around this. Hey Holly, I find membership and attendance at church and temple very fulfilling. @dot, is that when they switched to the slide show? Because of the eternal nature of the temple and the work that takes place there, it has been decided that time-only marriages in the temple will no longer be performed. @Angela, yep. You also mention that your foremothers were harmed by plural marriage. The ceremony at that time still included the violent death consequence hand motions for disclosing the signs and tokensthat rocked me. A message from the First Presidency announced that live sessions in the Salt Lake Temple would be discontinued when renovations are complete. But thats another can of worms. It is a manmade construct. It was shocking and unexpected for me when I had to promise to obey my husband that I hadnt yet met, before my mission. 2) I havent been to the temple recently enough to have experienced these changes, but it doesnt sound like a net negative. Monrovia, Liberia. So Im pretty sure I remember circles where sisters were paired and elders were paired. You may also like:What I learned from the late Elder Dean M. Davies about how to listen to the prophets voice. So when I went after the 2019 changes, I was a little excited. The sexism piece is if you are saying those differences justify the basic inequity between men and women in final decision making opportunities in the church. The emphasis of covenantthe higher lawis responsibility for one another. I have no idea what prompted the changes (or why, if Nelson has a direct line to God, he didnt make these changes in the 2019 overhaul). President Eyring also noted the death of Elder Dean M. Davies, who had served as General Authority for one year and in the Presiding Bishopric for eight years. (Please tell me there isnt a 13 minute Jesus picture slideshow in the middle with the TabCATS oohing in the background.). What differences are you referring to? (I still have some hope that if you replace the church with Jesus that Jesus actually does think women are equal, but thats probably not what Elder Hamilton had in mind). (2) I do not misunderstand polygamy. During his Sunday afternoon remarks in October 2021 general conference, President Nelson spoke about the importance of temples, saying, As I emphasized this morning, please make time for the Lord in His holy house. Im not sure if attendance is down as much as they say it is, but weve got a current president who is announcing new temples as if they are in high demand. When reporting about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, please use the complete name of the Church in the first reference. I wanted to ask about it but realized my parents were probably not equipped to talk about it, and my bishophe had effectively disqualified himself as someone I couldnt trust. While an improvement it still keeps women one down. They can choose not to delegate and to micromanage every last decision down to the ground. Enjoy! Articulating I covenant to obey the law of obedience is the most acute poisoning of the well. (And I suppose if we were to get nit-picky about that arrangement we could argue that that places the woman on a more sacred footing than the man.) By the way, many of us (myself included) have in fact spent a lot of time in other countries wheee temple attendance is more difficult. Present the basis of your statements. It doesnt address any significant issue that anyone has with the temple. Believe in women more, Jack. The fig is a telestial order, the vine is a terrestrial order, and the olive is a celestial order. Latest News on the Salt Lake Temple | ChurchofJesusChristTemples.org Its interesting to read about the changes, but I wont be going to see them. Read about plans for the Nauvoo Pageant, the British Pageant, and the Mesa Pageant at Newsroom. But it remains their choice, not ours. We obey commandment. John and Mary Douglas came to Utah in the Martin hand cart company. Either way, Im good with it. What follows is a provisional overview. Recall the meat offering in the court of the Israelite temple: it goes before the herb offering at the veil. The point is that he felt that in the few years he had been a member of the Church, every General Conference address about men had focused on their depravity and need to repent; while every address about women had focus on our spirituality and eternal value. Just one month later, he announced the Ephraim Utah Temple. I still discover weird stuff about the temple now and then. At least one of the coupleeither the bride or groomis a member of the Church. Admit it. Everyone should know what they are before they go to the temple. Frankly, thats how the lesser law comes to us. I dont care. I spent about an hour with 1st time recommends. Strikethroughs are used to indicate deleted passages, . @decay, the symbols and conduit metaphors for the temple are Hermetic in nature, and Josephs temple motifs run far closer to Rosicrucianism and especially Kabbalah (Jewish mysticism) than to Freemasonry. The satanic green apron should be removed by the terrestrial stage of the presentation, or removed altogether from the endowment. Angela, Ive been in three sessions in my years where I was paired up with a man because there werent enough women. If we have to do the same endowment ceremony every time we go, couldnt the covenants be packaged in a shorter ceremony, so that the boredom is a little more manageable? In 2019, the Church also launched an online training course for all adults interacting with children and youth. Maybe thats true, maybe it isnt, but it really seems to be the case, I just dont think we should be denigrating men for needing training we dont! Theyve been announced in General Conference. She did the right thingthough at the wrong time. But there are quite a few changes to other aspects of the temple endowment that merit discussion. Jesus says he will do what he can and give the glory to God; Satan says he will do what he can but he will receive the glory for himself. So, no. Maybe it got throughhence the cover up. Ive tried! I actually have positive feelings about polygamy myself. Im also interested in how strongly we can disagree about issues relating to the temple and dont want to have strong feelings about that. Law of Tithe Sort of like an ideal retirement. If you would like to stay on the page you are viewing please click Cancel. I asked my bishop about some of the specifics of the initiatory ceremony based on what I had read and he outright misrepresented the ordinance, and then shamed me for questioning such a sacred thing. The Creation Room room in the Idaho Falls Temple. Should shave off a minute or two from the endowment. Law of Chastity These renovations include safety improvements and filmed presentations of temple ceremonies, increasing the number of languages sessions in which they are available. They really believed polygamy was a necessary part of salvation. That said, what we forget sometimes is that in spite of the complementary-ness of the relationship between the two it wont work unless they are one. By referring or linking you to this website, we do not endorse or guarantee this content, products, or services offered. My last trip to the temple was probably in 2017ish. Thats not to say that the man is absent. I asked my parents the same questions and they gave me awkward and concerned glances and told me it wasnt appropriate to talk about the temple outside the templeit was sacred, not secret. When I served in positions where I was signing recommends, for own endowments, I followed my Dads approach. The Lord gave us mortal bodies and a temporal salvation as an escape from the telestial fig fruit trap. By wearing the fig emblem of Satan/Cain throughout the entirety of the presentation of the endowment, we symbolically reject the sacrifice the Lord made in order to give us earth, embodiment, and resurrection. When I get tired of that Ill let yall know. The few friends who were even willing to listen to my issues with the temple ceremonies have told me that its changed and I would find it much better now. (A couple will now come to the alter . And it is in being one that both the woman and the man inherit all things together. Ive very happy with it, despite ongoing questions. Its very moving. Its inspired me to be a better husband, father, a better person. But Im very happy with how its going now. How do you see Adam and Eve as obviously different in some of their functions? They have completed or are no longer attending high school, secondary school, or the equivalent. An update to the Church Handbook in section 27.2.2 states, The decision to receive the endowment is personal and should be made prayerfully. The handbook also lists four conditions members should meet if they choose to receive the endowment, which are as follows: You may also like:No more bathing caps? @Elisaok wow, Im really having an off day! I dont get how you could read the New Testament and think any of this makes any sense. Several symbols are used in multiple ways. The 2019 slide show was gone and no movie replaced it. Ive heard so many stories, first hand, from people who felt they were not adequately prepared. So much yes to that. I personally mean you no harm. Even so, I hope that my last few comments will give you a sense of what Im talking about. 30 years later I wish I had been emotionally mature enough to realize I was ceding decision-making authority to others. If you are dissatisfied with your temple experience, do these changes move the needle for you? Questioning the terms of this discussion. Dont we have a Father who knows us as individuals? I look forward to attending and seeing how they did with that. One full year has passed since their confirmation. I didnt think anything about it (other than it was new and perplexing to me). (That isnt stopping me from blogging about them, I guess, but Im just doing my journalistic duty here!) What do you think their impact will be? What I see is that when a woman gets baptized, she has all the Priesthood authority she needs to witness, to preside, to receive and even perform ordinances in the temple, to become a Queen and Priestess, and eventually a Heavenly Mother in her own right. You are about to access Constant Contacts (http://visitor.constantcontact.com). The symbol does not lie. . Imagine that. Whatever they do is too little too late and probably misses the whole point anyway, sort of like closing the barn window after the animals all walk out the open door. What do you think motivated these changes? So why doesnt the man need to be protected as a matter of navigating sacred space, but the woman does? I know it was probably inserted because of pushback about informed consent but it would be better placed in a good temple prep course which at the moment is still sadly lacking. That means I no longer have to apply the mental gymnastics you just applied to make myself feel a little more equal to my husband and men in the church. That doesnt change the fact that our Church structurally excludes women from leadership and decisionmaking. Why dont we just sell indulgences? I dont really have feelings one way or the other about these changes. I lost my trust. A lot more than intent going on there. They also participate in councils with men and women in the areas where theyre called, serving under the direction of Area Presidencies for three to five years. Read the accounts of early saints. I have questions, but I also know that I am not smart enough or spiritual enough to know better than the prophet, or know better than God. There are certain prerequisites that need to be met in order for us to successfully navigate sacred space. How is that for exalting fatherhood? A womans psyche can be harmed by her husbands poor choices (as can a husband by his wifes), but there are pros and cons to any situation. Previously announced adjustments to the sacred ceremonial clothing worn by church members in Latter-day Saint temples are now available globally. He has said we dont know why God decided not to give women the priesthood but that we shouldnt engage in old fashioned rationalizations justifying it. As I have experienced, priesthood holders can also choose not to treat us well. Ceremonial clothing previously used may still be worn for temple worship. To call the first principles of the gospel the law of the gospel is equally absurdparticularly because doing so conflates covenant and ordinance. Isnt it great when can disagree without being disagreeable? 4) I dont really know what this one means. Major changes to Mormon temple ceremony, especially for women The Assembly Hall, Tabernacle, Family History Library, and Church History Library also began reopening this summer in July, followed by the Beehive House and Church History Museum in August.Read about the announcement on Newsroom. It *is* a necessary part of salvation! Your email address will not be published. The indoctrination to temple worship works very well for keeping people in line and for paying tithing to an organization that no longer needs our money but does need our commitment to keep relevant. The letter was addressed to General Authorities, General Officers, Area Seventies, stake, mission, district and temple presidents, and bishops and branch presidents. I felt really bad, but better they know before they are there. I still do not believe in a God of tokens and signs. All of this becomes glaringly clear if we understand the symbolism of the fig tree, fig fruit, and fig leaf. The Temple Department in the US and Canada announced new opportunities for service missionaries in a January 29, 2021, notice. I might be getting a little nit-picky herebut I think its important to point out that not only does the symbol have to do with the means provided to get us into the mortal world it also represents our ability to be involved with those means. I was really interested by the discussion of the apron. Why not give the same fervor to finding another religion or secular cause entirely? 3) Minimal effect. @Toad, I second you on finding the temple movie erotic as a missionary. I believe its a continuation of what President Nelson started with the focus on the name of the Church. It is interesting to see how folks on both sides of the Great Woke Divide experience these things.). Its fine that you feel that in the Church, women do not have the power, authority, or influence that men do, but I honestly dont see it that way. (Thankfully, the president refused and helped him through it, but thats not really the point.) I remain steadfastly on my side, but Ive learned a lot and developed some respect for other view points by hanging around a bit here at W and T. Travis, Obfuscating this is worse than redressing it, and expresses that who ever is in charge of temple changes either doesnt fully understand it, or is manipulating it. Visiting the sites is a great way for individuals and families to enhance their understanding of Church history.. Peace and joy that fill me completely up. Thats 7 years I wont have with my children and grandchildren. The point is that they are given the presiding position and women are not in the presiding position. So when my sister was married in 1987 in Manti, I experienced a mostly live ceremony with a couple of parts a soundtrack. The Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, the Presidency of the Seventy, and the Area Presidency determine the need for the advisers. Any chance it can be removed/significantly altered? And mimicking slitting my throat and disemboweling myself, this is worse than creepy. Senior service missionaries live at home and serve for a minimum of six months for eight to 40 hours a week. Indeed, similar to my post from last week (sorry, I guess its week two of downer posts from me), there is little that could be done to the temple ceremony in anything resembling its current iteration that would seem meaningful to me so I honestly just dont care. And maybe barbecues with the family. This is a great and positive story. Sorry! I would only say three things: (1) While its nice that you dont feel that the Church is sexist, whether or not gender inequality persists in the Church organization is not about feelings but about structure, language, and facts. If youre keeping track, this is the third change that Nelson has implemented during his reign.

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